Slavs in the Viking World Series: Introduction – Who Were the Vikings?

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  1. Arhproh says:

    “Similarly, the Swedes, then known as Varangians, or Rus, were poised to discover and pillage new lands in the east along the Volga and Dniepper rivers” (c)
    Why do you think Swedes were Rus?
    May be Swedes were Varangians but Rex Wagirorum (Wairensium) was Slavic Niklot.
    The Rus from Denmark could be Rani or Rujani (Slavic tribe) from the island of Rugia (Rügen) which were defeated by Danish. The Pope Benedict XI called both princes of Rügen “principibus Russianorum”. At those times Swedes were under Danish control too.
    So, may be not Swedes but Rani were Rus? “In the 11th and 12th centuries, they (Rani) also raided their neighbors in a Viking manner” (с) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rani_(Slavic_tribe)

    • Juraj says:

      The territory was firstly unified by Goths (Swedes) broken by the Huns, just thereafter, there’s a dispute who was the first ruler dynasty of Kievan Rus (Slavs or Vikings).

      Of course, along with other ethnics, in Kievan Rus were living also Swedes (even nowadays, you find there not only Swedes, even Japanese tourists). How should they be called if were the settlers? If I’m once Chinese, Hungarian, or whatsoever else and everyone knows that I’m from Russia, so while they don’t know anything else except Russia (which is very well known abroad as a country) then they will call me Russian.

      Even if we accept the idea that the first dynasty started as Slavic, this is totally pointless, all kings and aristocracy had been inter-marrying with foreign aristocracy (Slavic aristocracy always married family of Germanic tribes and vice versa).

    • Andrew says:

      Rather not, looking on the names of those people: Ivar, Rurik, Helga… typically nordmen…

      • David says:

        you cannot simply go by the names. Boleslaw the Griffin of Pomerania was the King of Denmark Norway and Sweden. He changed his name to Eric of Pomerania so that the people of Scandinavia could at least pronounce his name. He was Slavic and was also known as the last Viking of the Baltic. Knut the great son of Forkbeard, was at least half polish and possibly 3/4 if his grandmother was Tofa. You can’t just go by names and assume they were not Slavic. Western Slavic peoples did not have a written language and most references about the slavs during the Viking ages were not written by the slavs so they get very little acknowledgement.

  2. Henrik says:

    Important to note here that slavic raiders raided southern Sweden, northern Denmark and Gotland, by boat no less, during the viking age. Nordic writers even label them as “vikings”.

  3. Andrew says:

    Very important and still not discovered by historians is fact, that present Polish territory was sized by north tribes from the beginnings of our age, and maybe even before. II century, Gots, a bit later Vandals, who in my opinion not all migrated to southern Europe (invading Rome). Vandals stayed at Pomarania and Odra river bands until Slavs came around VI century and later. Very likely they ruled those lands even later, and the name of land from X century confirms it: Vandland, so land of Vandals… Slavic people run away from Huns/Scyths to the West and assimilated with local people. It took about 500-600 years! (let’s look on present history, where 1 million of Poles migrated to British islands just during last 20 years). Slavs naturally are brown eyes, dark hair, nord people blue eyes, blond hair… And what is probably the most important: Viking was a “profession” not nationality 🙂 Possibly many warriors from present Poland supported Knut the Great during his invasion of England, as Knut was nephew of Boleslav, Polish king (son of Boleslav’s sister, Sigurd). A lot of informations from local chronicles and a lot of archeological present exploitation says, that there was “very significant” influence of northmen. And as chronicle says: “Miesko (Boleslav’s father) was using other language talking with his warriors and previously was named by other name” 🙂

    • Tom says:

      You need to read more history books and learn just the facts! And don’t make them up as you go along becuase then it starts to be fiction.

    • Ján.k says:

      Are you kidding? 😄😄 slavs have “naturaly “ light eyes and light hairs you moron ,only slavs when majority have brown eyes and dark hair is on balkan -south serbia ,montenegro and bulgaria because they are prety will mixed….
      Slavs are nordic and alpinese people only in Balkan is dinaric type major

    • Ján.k says:

      Slavs are light eyed and light haired folk, mr.clever…🤦‍♂️

  4. Alex says:

    Many sources show Rurik as the leader of the Slavic Abodrites and Ruggians, from the island of Rugen.
    First of all, the Slavs who settled the region of lake Ilmen (Novgorod) were related to the Slavs who inhabited an area to the southeast of Denmark, in northern present-day Germany. That tribe was called the Abodrites (Obodrichi), and they inhabited this area during the 8th and 9th centuries. The Abodrites and the Slovenes, Slavs of Novgorod, had many similarities in the area of religion, tradition, certain customs, geographic names, language, settlement layout and civilian and defensive construction, similarities that the Slavs around Kiev did not share with the Slavs of Novgorod.
    This theory started attracting attention in the 18th cent. The scholar and founder of the first Russian university, M. V. Lomonosov once wrote that Rurik with his family/tribe was Slavic and spoke the Slavonic language; he came from the area between the rivers Vistula and West Dvina, near the river Rusa (Neman).
    Russian historian V. N. Tatishchev wrote that Rurik came from Vandalia. Vandals were Slavs, and the Baltic Sea (Varangian/Vagrian Sea) was named so after the Vandal city of Vagria near Lubeck.
    Kromer and Bernh(g)ard were quoted by Tatishchev as saying that Venedi (Wends) or Vandals were also called Pomeranians, Varini, Abodrites, Polyabi, Vagri, Rani, etc.
    Helmold said that Vendi (Wends) lived between the Elbe and the Oder rivers.
    Strykovsky quotes from the Nikon Chronicle as saying that those who invited the Varyazi-Rus to Novgorod were also called Rus themselves. The Chronicle also says: “…Slavonic tongue and Russian are one…” There were two Rus’s: one in Novgorod and one in southwest Baltic. Rurik and his tribe spoke the same language as the Slavs of Novgorod.
    Gerard (George) Mercator (16th cent.) explains: “On that island, a pagan people lived by the name of Rani(ans) or Ruteni(ans), they were fierce and cruel in battle, fought violently against the Christians, to defend their idols… Their language was Slavonic or Vandalic. …”
    This island is Rügen [off Germany’s Baltic coast, just south of Sweden]. It is known as Arkona, the last stronghold of northern paganism. Also on the island was the port of Ralsvik, identified with Veneti.
    Princess Olga was called by the Germans “Regina Rugorum” and not “Regina Rusorum,” however Olga was the princess of Rusichi. Therefore Rugi and Rusi is the same name but different transcription.
    Rugi were also called Rusini (or Rutheni), and their country was called Rusinia (Ruthenia), as stated in the Life of Otto of Bamberg. Otto places these Ruteni in Pomerania [northwestern Poland], … calls the leader Odoacer “genere Rogus.” In Salzburg, Austria, there is a stone tablet with the inscription: “Year of our Lord 477. Odoacer, leader of the rusini (rutheni), gepids, goths, ungarians and geruls…” Thus, Rugi-Ruyani-Rane-Rutheni from the island of Rugen and the delta of the river Vistula [Oder?] are the first in line to be identified as Varyazi-Rus. This is the only Rus “beyond the sea,” and this Rus was also called Vandals-Venedi. There is no tribe by the name of Rus in Scandinavia.
    “Slavyania is ten times bigger than Saxony, if you include the Czechs and the Poles, who do not differ in either dress or tongue from the inhabitants of Slavyania. … The westernmost of the Slavs are Vagri, who border with the Transalbingians. Their city by the sea is Aldinburg (Stargrad). After them there are the Abodrites [to the East], their city is called Magnopolis (Velegrad)…” – Adam of Bremen, 1066.
    A comparison is drawn between the names Rurik-Rorik, the tribe of Reregi, Rarogi, their city Rerik, with the western Slavic god of fire, Rarog. Rarogi are described by historians as a Slavic tribe living in the first millennium A.D. in the south of Jutland [Denmark], in the land that later became Mecklenburg.
    A similarity is evident in the Runik Venedi inscriptions of the Slavic tribe Lyutichi (found in Mecklenburg) and that of Lyakhi (found in Poznan, Poland). The same similarity is seen in the Runes found on a cow’s rib in Novgorod as is in the images from Mecklenburg.
    In “Les Letteres Sur le Nord,” by Xavier Marmier/Chivilikhin, the Legend of the Calling of Rurik of the Abodrites states that the leader of the Abodrites was King Godlav, he had three sons, equally strong, brave and yearning for glory. The first was Rurik, the second, Sivar, the third, Truvar… They went in search of adventure …. They went East. … Then they came to Russia [Roos-sia]. People of this land were suffering under a tyranny and could not raise up against it. The brothers were touched by their suffering and gathered an army with which they overthrew the oppressors. After restoring peace the brothers wanted to return home to their father but the grateful people begged them to stay and rule over them in place of the old rulers. Thus Rurik received Novgorod, Sivar – Pleskov [Pskov] and Truvar – Belo-ozero.
    “The Genealogy of the Dukes of Mecklenburg” by Frederik of Mecklenburg, 1717, says Rurik and his brothers were sons of the Venedi-Abodrite Prince Gotleib or Godlaib, who was imprisoned and killed by Gotofreid, king of Jutland. Because the brothers were too young the throne passed to their uncles Slavomir and Trasik. Their heirs were Godomysl and Tabemysl… Later the throne passed to Mechislav III.
    Various sources state that Burivoi, prince of Novgorod, was at war with foreign Varyagi for a long time. He was beaten near the Finnish border and retreated. The people of Novgorod came under the rule of Varyagi [Vikings], and they sent for Gostomysl, Burivoi’s son. Prince Burivoi (descendant of Vladimir the Ancient) was the son of Abodrite Prince Vitislav and Rurik’s great grandfather. Burivoi’s son Gostomysl had a daughter, Umila (born ~ 815), who married Abodrite prince Godlav/Godoslav/Godelaib.
    Gostomysl was the elected prince of the Sloveni, who came from Vandalia, he ruled from Staraya Ladoga and died in 861. After his death, the people wanted to find a ruler for themselves. So they called for Rurik of the Rus.
    It is highly unlikely that Slavs could have invited a foreigner of a different faith to rule over them. The Danes were never called Rus. There is only one Rus on the Baltic: Rugii, who are Slavs, according to the Germans themselves. Both the Baltic and the Novgorod Rus spoke the same language and worshipped the same gods (less than ten words of Scandinavian origin can be found in old Russian).
    Tatishchev asks: if Novgorod is the New City, then where is the Old City? And he answers: It is Aldenburg (Oldenburg), Stargrad in Russian. In the Slavic Chronicle, Helmold writes: “Oldenburg, what the Slavs call Starigard, meaning Old City, is located in the land of Vagri on the western side of the Baltic Sea, and it is the frontier of Slavia… This city… is inhabited by the bravest men, since being located at the forefront of all Slavia their neighbors were the Danes and Saxons, and all military clashes they either started first or, if attacked, they would take the blow upon themselves.”
    Rurik’s wife was Yefanda, sister of the Viking Odr. It is said that a Viking prince was already in Novgorod with his warriors when Rurik was called in.
    As you can see, there is some convincing proof in this article to support the concept that Prince Rurik was a Slav and not a Viking. However, the big question is why do the Russian authorities never challenge the “official” Viking version of Russian history.

  5. Algert Kalica says:

    The genetic similarity between Pomeranians and Scandinavians comes from the fact that there first settled the goths and the vandals who came from Scandza (Sacandinavia) in the now-a-days Sweden. The Prussian language was the evolution of the Gothic. The Slavic bulk came later to highly mix their blood.

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